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sadlikeknivesOnce again, I can't sleep, and once again, I find myself hung up on those darn Lords of Kobol.
According to most lists I've found, these are considered the twelve major Olympian gods: Zeus, Hera, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Aphrodite, Demeter, Dionysos, Hephaistos, Ares, Hermes, and Poseidon, with Hades being the most major deity not residing on Olympos. Since sea travel has not been shown to have any importance to the Colonials as a space-faring people, I am willing to consider cutting Poseidon in favor of Hades. Or perhaps Hades is the unnamed god of the Thirteenth Tribe, or the God of the Cylons, but I doubt either of these interpretations, as it leaves the Colonials without a death god.
Except for the fact that Aurora (allow me to say again, a very minor goddess) is apparently one of the Twelve Lords of Kobol. Oy, my brain.
So, here's the list I'm going with, in no particular order: Zeus, Hera, Athena, Artemis, Apollo, Aphrodite, Dionysos, Demeter, Ares, Hermes, Hephaistos, Hades, and The Unknown God (the Greeks had one of these, too; see the teachings of Paul).
Frak Aurora. Seriously. I don't know what she's doing there. It had symbolic meaning for the episode; fine, but in an overall sense she really doesn't belong.
As a sidenote of relevance, apparently Ron Moore has confirmed in an interview that the Four are indeed Cylons, and Nicky Tyrol is indeed a Cylon hybrid. So there you go. (Cally is going to LOSE HER ENTIRE MIND. And it will be great and I will probably laugh.)
I will now attempt to apply these theoretical Lords of Kobol to our eleven known Cylons, as each deity represents an aspect of human nature. Under this model, there should be seven male Cylons and five female (as there are seven gods and five goddesses), which means the last Cylon should be female, as so far we have seven male Cylons and four female. Known numbers will be placed at their number; everybody else I'll just be sort of guessing and slotting in wherever they fit.
1. Saul Tigh--Zeus. Allow me to get poetic. The thunderer. Lord of the gods; "What do we do now?" "We do our jobs," and they do. Known to do some carousing in his day, but he really did love his wife. And, oh irony, move over to the Norse and the king of gods loses an eye to gain wisdom. Odin spent nine days on the tree; do we know how long Tigh was in detention on New Caprica?
2. Brother Cavil--Hades. Keeper of the doors to the underworld (boxing), guardian of knowledge and that which passes between. Kinda creepy.
3. D'Anna Biers--Artemis. I was torn on this one. Artemis or Athena? Definitely a maiden goddess. But she's hunting for knowledge; she is not wise. Finally I decided on Artemis. Artemis helped deliver her twin, Apollo. D'Anna delivered infant Hera, from the hands of death.
4. Simon--Apollo. I wanted to make Anders Apollo, because 'Starbuck' is so clearly derived from Artemis (moon goddess, hunt goddess, goddess of deer) and it would be a nice tie. But no, Anders has other attributes, and Apollo is a healer, so he fits our doctor Cylon.
5. Aaron Doral--Hermes. I think Leoben is a messenger, too, but Doral was our PR guy, he was the guy who blew himself up as a message. That wins.
6. Six--Aphrodite. Her purpose is to love and be loved, the most beautiful thing in the world. But her love brings pain. I almost wanted to make her Artemis or Athena (specifically Artemis, goddess of childbirth, due to her interest in Hera), because she's so warlike, but...no. I think this fits better. Aphrodite never really gets why things fall apart around her (Troy, her husband, various and sundry other beings); neither does Six.
7. Leoben Conoy--Dionysos. No, he's not exactly running around drunk with the ladies, but Dionysos is also the god of madness, and Leoben definitely fits that. He's pretty nuts himself, and on New Caprica he tried his damnedest to make Kara ABSOLUTELY FRAKKING INSANE.
8. Sharon Valerii/Agathon--Demeter. Sharon-Athena is the mother of a daughter, and she will raise hell, fight heaven and earth, and go down into death for her. Hell, she's done all of the above. Sharon-Boomer was denied a future and perhaps a child, and like Demeter she went mad in her grief.
9. Chief Galen Tyrol--Hephaistos. This one was CAKE. Smith god with a frakked-up personal life and parental issues, meet mechanic who can build a better still/experimental aircraft and keep a battlestar running with chewing gum and packing twine, who rebelled against his parents, whose first girlfriend turned out to be a machine, whose wife (who killed said first girlfriend in cold blood) is going to LOSE HER ENTIRE MIND. SERIOUSLY, Y'ALL.
10. Samuel Anders--Ares. Like I said above, I wanted to make him Apollo, but he really fits better as Ares. He lives for competition, for victory, for actually getting some fighting done. First as a professional athlete--in a time of peace, the military didn't really offer him any chance to do some winning. Then as a guerilla leader on Caprica, a resistance leader on New Caprica, and now as a nugget on Galactica.
11. Tory Foster--Athena. This is pretty much process of elimination, but it fits. There are only two left, and I don't think Tory's god-queen material. She does, however, offer advice, wisdom. Athena's a war lord, too, but she's the goddess of tactics and being smart about it, which is Tory all over. She's gonna win, even if she has to cheat to do it.
12. ??--Hera. Queen of the gods, sister and wife to Zeus. NOT THAT I THINK IT'S ELLEN. Majestic and enthroned, goddess of marriage, the jealous goddess. If it weren't for the fact that I seriously do not think Roslin is a Cylon, I'd say she's front-runner.
13. Hera Agathon--the Unknown God. Our little demigoddess, or demitoaster, rather. She's something new, something the world has never seen before. Unique, at least until Nicky Tyrol's born. Gina suggested calling her Thirteen, and it fits, not because she is the thirteenth Cylon, but because she is like the thirteenth Lord.
And on a totally unrelated note, a line I know I will never hear on BSG, but that I would love to anyway, in light of the revelations of Crossroads, Part 2:
Sharon Agathon to Saul Tigh: "HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW, MOTHERFRAKKER?"
For my next trick, I will attempt to make sense of Helo's career track over the course of season 3.5.
According to most lists I've found, these are considered the twelve major Olympian gods: Zeus, Hera, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Aphrodite, Demeter, Dionysos, Hephaistos, Ares, Hermes, and Poseidon, with Hades being the most major deity not residing on Olympos. Since sea travel has not been shown to have any importance to the Colonials as a space-faring people, I am willing to consider cutting Poseidon in favor of Hades. Or perhaps Hades is the unnamed god of the Thirteenth Tribe, or the God of the Cylons, but I doubt either of these interpretations, as it leaves the Colonials without a death god.
Except for the fact that Aurora (allow me to say again, a very minor goddess) is apparently one of the Twelve Lords of Kobol. Oy, my brain.
So, here's the list I'm going with, in no particular order: Zeus, Hera, Athena, Artemis, Apollo, Aphrodite, Dionysos, Demeter, Ares, Hermes, Hephaistos, Hades, and The Unknown God (the Greeks had one of these, too; see the teachings of Paul).
Frak Aurora. Seriously. I don't know what she's doing there. It had symbolic meaning for the episode; fine, but in an overall sense she really doesn't belong.
As a sidenote of relevance, apparently Ron Moore has confirmed in an interview that the Four are indeed Cylons, and Nicky Tyrol is indeed a Cylon hybrid. So there you go. (Cally is going to LOSE HER ENTIRE MIND. And it will be great and I will probably laugh.)
I will now attempt to apply these theoretical Lords of Kobol to our eleven known Cylons, as each deity represents an aspect of human nature. Under this model, there should be seven male Cylons and five female (as there are seven gods and five goddesses), which means the last Cylon should be female, as so far we have seven male Cylons and four female. Known numbers will be placed at their number; everybody else I'll just be sort of guessing and slotting in wherever they fit.
1. Saul Tigh--Zeus. Allow me to get poetic. The thunderer. Lord of the gods; "What do we do now?" "We do our jobs," and they do. Known to do some carousing in his day, but he really did love his wife. And, oh irony, move over to the Norse and the king of gods loses an eye to gain wisdom. Odin spent nine days on the tree; do we know how long Tigh was in detention on New Caprica?
2. Brother Cavil--Hades. Keeper of the doors to the underworld (boxing), guardian of knowledge and that which passes between. Kinda creepy.
3. D'Anna Biers--Artemis. I was torn on this one. Artemis or Athena? Definitely a maiden goddess. But she's hunting for knowledge; she is not wise. Finally I decided on Artemis. Artemis helped deliver her twin, Apollo. D'Anna delivered infant Hera, from the hands of death.
4. Simon--Apollo. I wanted to make Anders Apollo, because 'Starbuck' is so clearly derived from Artemis (moon goddess, hunt goddess, goddess of deer) and it would be a nice tie. But no, Anders has other attributes, and Apollo is a healer, so he fits our doctor Cylon.
5. Aaron Doral--Hermes. I think Leoben is a messenger, too, but Doral was our PR guy, he was the guy who blew himself up as a message. That wins.
6. Six--Aphrodite. Her purpose is to love and be loved, the most beautiful thing in the world. But her love brings pain. I almost wanted to make her Artemis or Athena (specifically Artemis, goddess of childbirth, due to her interest in Hera), because she's so warlike, but...no. I think this fits better. Aphrodite never really gets why things fall apart around her (Troy, her husband, various and sundry other beings); neither does Six.
7. Leoben Conoy--Dionysos. No, he's not exactly running around drunk with the ladies, but Dionysos is also the god of madness, and Leoben definitely fits that. He's pretty nuts himself, and on New Caprica he tried his damnedest to make Kara ABSOLUTELY FRAKKING INSANE.
8. Sharon Valerii/Agathon--Demeter. Sharon-Athena is the mother of a daughter, and she will raise hell, fight heaven and earth, and go down into death for her. Hell, she's done all of the above. Sharon-Boomer was denied a future and perhaps a child, and like Demeter she went mad in her grief.
9. Chief Galen Tyrol--Hephaistos. This one was CAKE. Smith god with a frakked-up personal life and parental issues, meet mechanic who can build a better still/experimental aircraft and keep a battlestar running with chewing gum and packing twine, who rebelled against his parents, whose first girlfriend turned out to be a machine, whose wife (who killed said first girlfriend in cold blood) is going to LOSE HER ENTIRE MIND. SERIOUSLY, Y'ALL.
10. Samuel Anders--Ares. Like I said above, I wanted to make him Apollo, but he really fits better as Ares. He lives for competition, for victory, for actually getting some fighting done. First as a professional athlete--in a time of peace, the military didn't really offer him any chance to do some winning. Then as a guerilla leader on Caprica, a resistance leader on New Caprica, and now as a nugget on Galactica.
11. Tory Foster--Athena. This is pretty much process of elimination, but it fits. There are only two left, and I don't think Tory's god-queen material. She does, however, offer advice, wisdom. Athena's a war lord, too, but she's the goddess of tactics and being smart about it, which is Tory all over. She's gonna win, even if she has to cheat to do it.
12. ??--Hera. Queen of the gods, sister and wife to Zeus. NOT THAT I THINK IT'S ELLEN. Majestic and enthroned, goddess of marriage, the jealous goddess. If it weren't for the fact that I seriously do not think Roslin is a Cylon, I'd say she's front-runner.
13. Hera Agathon--the Unknown God. Our little demigoddess, or demitoaster, rather. She's something new, something the world has never seen before. Unique, at least until Nicky Tyrol's born. Gina suggested calling her Thirteen, and it fits, not because she is the thirteenth Cylon, but because she is like the thirteenth Lord.
And on a totally unrelated note, a line I know I will never hear on BSG, but that I would love to anyway, in light of the revelations of Crossroads, Part 2:
Sharon Agathon to Saul Tigh: "HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW, MOTHERFRAKKER?"
For my next trick, I will attempt to make sense of Helo's career track over the course of season 3.5.
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Date: 2007-03-28 12:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-03-28 12:47 pm (UTC)As someone who doesn't watch the show but is willing to ask questions based entirely on what you wrote, do you think that instead of Ares, Anders could be more of a Heracles? If they're willing to go with a minor goddess like Aurora, it would make sense that they would go for a demi-turned-full-god like Herc. And the athlete thing just sticks in my mind as more Heracles (see: The Olympics) than Ares.
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Date: 2007-04-02 05:27 am (UTC)